About the show

Two CISOs and a security-minded friend discuss and debate topics of security and privacy, with a focus on looking at the topic from various angles, both that they support and those they don't.

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  • Episode 4: In The House (Or Not)

    4 July 2020  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Dan, Brian and Erik discuss the pros and cons of managed services for security vs. building similar capability internally, best of breed security vs. suite (for the 5th time since 1995), and education and awareness.

  • Episode 3: MVP vs. TSP

    13 June 2020  |  1 hr 42 secs

    Dan, Brian and Erik debate the pros and cons to starting a product (or even a project) fully focused on hitting MVP (minimum viable product) or focusing more on TSP (totally secure product). Spoiler alert: it's somewhere in the middle! Also covered: the importance of support, defence vs response, and the mission of the podcast.

  • Episode 2: Free Range Security

    30 May 2020  |  59 mins 16 secs

    Dan, Brian and Erik discuss how to talk about security in ways that encourage end users to understand security and want to be part of the process, and the challenges of selling security products into security organisations.

  • Episode 1: Privacy Drone

    16 May 2020  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Episode 1: Privacy Drone. Dan, Brian and Erik discuss expectation of privacy; privacy as a business enabler; transparency and ethical increase of privacy and how much should leaders and legislators understand privacy innately.