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Two CISOs and a security-minded friend discuss and debate topics of security and privacy, with a focus on looking at the topic from various angles, both that they support and those they don't.

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  • Episode 7: Hold Me For Ransom

    23 August 2020  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 16 mins

    Ransomware is increasing. Brian, Dan and Erik discuss the evolution of ransomware, the preparation and the response, and the debate about whether to pay the ransom or not.

  • Episode 6: Pippen and Jordan

    8 August 2020  |  Season 1  |  58 mins 7 secs
    ciso, debate, leadership, privacy, security

    Erik, Dan and Brian talk about the role of the CISO and the security organisation as part of the wider business, and how to share security mindset at home.

  • Episode 5: Gripped With Fear

    26 July 2020  |  Season 1  |  58 mins 33 secs

    Erik, Dan and Brian debate the differences in approach between those that skew toward not using technology as a way to avoid risk vs. those that use it and plan for the issues that may arise and can act when they do.

  • Episode 4: In The House (Or Not)

    4 July 2020  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Dan, Brian and Erik discuss the pros and cons of managed services for security vs. building similar capability internally, best of breed security vs. suite (for the 5th time since 1995), and education and awareness.

  • Episode 3: MVP vs. TSP

    13 June 2020  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 42 secs

    Dan, Brian and Erik debate the pros and cons to starting a product (or even a project) fully focused on hitting MVP (minimum viable product) or focusing more on TSP (totally secure product). Spoiler alert: it's somewhere in the middle! Also covered: the importance of support, defence vs response, and the mission of the podcast.

  • Episode 2: Free Range Security

    30 May 2020  |  Season 1  |  59 mins 16 secs

    Dan, Brian and Erik discuss how to talk about security in ways that encourage end users to understand security and want to be part of the process, and the challenges of selling security products into security organisations.

  • Episode 1: Privacy Drone

    16 May 2020  |  Season 1  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Episode 1: Privacy Drone. Dan, Brian and Erik discuss expectation of privacy; privacy as a business enabler; transparency and ethical increase of privacy and how much should leaders and legislators understand privacy innately.

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